In this article I want to look at the church as it is today, contrasting it to a legacy system. When talking about a legacy system, I'm referring to what most people consider with computers or technology, where an old system is maintained and/or kept in service beyond its usefulness. That is what has happened in regard to the majority of the way we practice church and Christianity today.
Jesus mentioned this to the Jews He ministered to while He was on the earth, saying new wine required new wineskins. While this referred to the outward types and shadows associated with the Old Testament, it also refers to the same during the New Testament times, where we've largely gravitated towards an outward and ineffective practice of Christianity because we've focused on outward rituals and forms which have little, if any use today.
Before we get into that, let me say from the beginning that I'm not talking about the foundational truths of Christianity which many have abandoned.
Many adherents of the so-called "Emergent church" have done that to the degree that they embrace outright heretics and sin which are clearly forbidden in the Holy Scriptures.
So while there is always a move of Satan to counterfeit the real, we can't retreat to past practices even though there are those that abuse the insights Christ is giving us. There will always be the ignorant and unlearned among us who distort the scriptures. We don't stop reading and believing in the scriptures because of that. In other words, even though the wine never changes, meaning the life of Christ Himself, the wineskins are always changing and adapting as new life is revealed and
made to be understood in the Scriptures. We may see it within, but it will never conflict with what the Scriptures reveal concerning Christ and His people. Never!
Some of the reasons most believers retain the practices of modern Christianity, even though it can't be found in the scriptures, is it's all they have ever known, and it is assumed by most that this is simply the way it should be done. Very few know the history of current church and Christian practices, so simply go along as if this is how it was from the beginning. The majority are unaware that there are alternatives, and that many throughout church history have taken steps to explore them.
Another reason for not wanting or looking to change is the embeddedness of the existing church system in the fabric of society, which makes it very difficult to change it, as it can appear it is an attack upon Christianity, when in fact its an attempt to release the followers of Jesus Christ into a deeper walk; one that isn't hindered by outward forms, which can deceive people into believing they're following Christ just because they participate in some meetings at a building wrongly identified as a church.
The idea of relying upon outward systems is a substitute for Christ and an inward walk with Him. It also gets in the way of walking together in Christ daily with our brothers and sisters in Christ.
When the letter to the Hebrews in the New Testament refers to Christ shaking all things so that which can't be shaken remains, it is a reference to those who continue to rely on things that are institutional and outward, rather than eternal and based upon Jesus Christ.
Even though it was an obvious nod towards the upcoming destruction of Jerusalem and the old wineskin of Judaism, the principle remains in place, which is Christ is done with types and shadows and institutionalism, and now is forming the reality of Himself in people through real, daily fellowship with Himself and one another.
Other than the fact many Christians are unaware of the various believers outside the institutional Church who are living in a daily walk together, the other major reason for remaining in the institutional church is the time and energy it'll take to make the shift out of it.
Let's make it clear. There is no reforming of the existing church system. The outward practices have become a weight on believers seeking Christ rather than helping them. It's a weight because it gets in the way of the God-given passion to share life in Christ together on a daily basis.
Since it is almost impossible to see the alternative while participating in the existing structures of Christianity, it is imperative that we share and communicate the realities of what Christ is desires and is doing outside the walls of the buildings and services featuring a main speaker and a few gifted musicians. After all, if this really worked, we wouldn't see Christianity in the state it is today, and even the call and prayer for revival is a worthless and meaningless one if all that is desired is for people to fill up these buildings and continue on as before.
That's not to say just because people leave church buildings and weekly services they are more spiritual if they meet in homes, because many times all that happens is people move from a building to a home and continue things on as they were before.
This is a radical, surgical cut that needs to excise the existing mentality of institutional Christianity into one that brings us into a daily walk with Christ and one another.
Only those willing to embrace the cross and die to themselves can successfully navigate these waters, as it is more demanding, but also more rewarding, than the type of Christianity practiced by most today.
We must allow God to do whatever He wants with us. We must continue to hold onto the foundations of the faith that have been handed down to us in the Holy Scriptures, while at the same time living them out daily, while also looking for more insight and light concerning who Christ really is.
Just because the practices of Christianity have been around for centuries doesn't mean that's how they started, or that it's how God wants things to continue.
All we can do is ask Him to open our hearts to see Him and what He wants, and seek for those who have a similar passion to see Christ and His people released from the confines of outward religion to a real and living fellowship together.
God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow ... And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Philippians 2:9-11
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Monday, January 18, 2010
For many of us who have been outside the institutional church system for a number of years, it can be perplexing to see some of those who have seen some things concerning why that is so, turn so completely away from some of the basics of the faith because they don't understand what the emphasis of the Lord really is and why many of us have heeded this call.
Over the last eight to ten years or so, an unfortunate side effect has happened, as politically motivated socialists or progressives, have moved a lot outside of the institutional church way of doing things, but have almost completely thrown away the basics of the faith in an effort to create a new gospel which isn't so much centered on Christ, but on liberal teachings coming from radical feminism, environmentalism, immorality and socialism, among a number of other things.
Part of that has resulted in the idea that those of us outside the church system are there to promote these political agendas rather than Christ. The so-called emerging church has migrated this way, and what has been held for decades by many of us is in danger of being overshadowed by those who have an endless array of agendas that have nothing to do with Christ. We'll talk more on that in the future.
In this article I just want to remind us that even with the idea of liberty in Christ, that doesn't mean license, which is to simply be nothing much more than living by animal instincts rather than by the Spirit of the Lord.
Even though Paul was talking about liberty and salvation through grace in Galatians, in the same letter he adds this so he isn't misunderstood as he was so many times throughout his life when promoting the new birth in Christ which had been offered as a gift and new creation for those willing to call upon the name of the Lord and truly believe in Him.
Here it is in Galatians 5:16-25:
I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.
Those of us looking for new ways to practice our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ practically in the Church need to throw away the idea that this includes some type of new morality or lax lifestyles which do nothing to honor Jesus and are not of Him.
The scriptures above confirm this in what is the first writing from the New Testament period we have.
You may attempt to get cute with what it means when Paul says those who practice such things won't enter the kingdom of God. But however you may wish to interpret that, there is great loss, and taking part in those things are deeds or works of the flesh, and don't come from Jesus or heaven.
This may seem basic to many of you, but to read and listen to those who are new to the ways of God in practicing Church life are throwing away much of that which isn't meant to be thrown away, to the point where they are in hardy agreement with how the world asserts their world view.
One example of that is the agreement and support of the homosexual lifestyle, along with even agreeing they should be allowed to marry.
Not only does no Christian have any authority to make such statements, they can be destroying those living in that sin who are given false comfort by those who should be warning them to repent, rather than settle into it.
As the scriptures also teach, we are to bring every thought into captivity to Christ. If the scriptures say it, then you need to adjust to that reality, not the other way around.
Just remember that sin is always sin, and nothing has changed that. If you're leaving the institutional church because you're living in sin and/or promoting sin, you've got a big problem, as that's not the reason Jesus Christ and the Spirit of God have been moving people to practice being the church in a different and expanded way.
Neither does it give us license to tell people it's okay to live in sin when the entirety of the scriptures from the beginning to the end say it's not so.
There are a lot of things to learn concerning the practice of the church and living in liberty in Jesus Christ. Sinning and condoning sin isn't one of those things we have to learn anything new about, as it's the same old thing it's always been, and we're not dealing with that, but the practice of the Church is what we're trying to learn and change.
Over the last eight to ten years or so, an unfortunate side effect has happened, as politically motivated socialists or progressives, have moved a lot outside of the institutional church way of doing things, but have almost completely thrown away the basics of the faith in an effort to create a new gospel which isn't so much centered on Christ, but on liberal teachings coming from radical feminism, environmentalism, immorality and socialism, among a number of other things.
Part of that has resulted in the idea that those of us outside the church system are there to promote these political agendas rather than Christ. The so-called emerging church has migrated this way, and what has been held for decades by many of us is in danger of being overshadowed by those who have an endless array of agendas that have nothing to do with Christ. We'll talk more on that in the future.
In this article I just want to remind us that even with the idea of liberty in Christ, that doesn't mean license, which is to simply be nothing much more than living by animal instincts rather than by the Spirit of the Lord.
Even though Paul was talking about liberty and salvation through grace in Galatians, in the same letter he adds this so he isn't misunderstood as he was so many times throughout his life when promoting the new birth in Christ which had been offered as a gift and new creation for those willing to call upon the name of the Lord and truly believe in Him.
Here it is in Galatians 5:16-25:
I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.
Those of us looking for new ways to practice our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ practically in the Church need to throw away the idea that this includes some type of new morality or lax lifestyles which do nothing to honor Jesus and are not of Him.
The scriptures above confirm this in what is the first writing from the New Testament period we have.
You may attempt to get cute with what it means when Paul says those who practice such things won't enter the kingdom of God. But however you may wish to interpret that, there is great loss, and taking part in those things are deeds or works of the flesh, and don't come from Jesus or heaven.
This may seem basic to many of you, but to read and listen to those who are new to the ways of God in practicing Church life are throwing away much of that which isn't meant to be thrown away, to the point where they are in hardy agreement with how the world asserts their world view.
One example of that is the agreement and support of the homosexual lifestyle, along with even agreeing they should be allowed to marry.
Not only does no Christian have any authority to make such statements, they can be destroying those living in that sin who are given false comfort by those who should be warning them to repent, rather than settle into it.
As the scriptures also teach, we are to bring every thought into captivity to Christ. If the scriptures say it, then you need to adjust to that reality, not the other way around.
Just remember that sin is always sin, and nothing has changed that. If you're leaving the institutional church because you're living in sin and/or promoting sin, you've got a big problem, as that's not the reason Jesus Christ and the Spirit of God have been moving people to practice being the church in a different and expanded way.
Neither does it give us license to tell people it's okay to live in sin when the entirety of the scriptures from the beginning to the end say it's not so.
There are a lot of things to learn concerning the practice of the church and living in liberty in Jesus Christ. Sinning and condoning sin isn't one of those things we have to learn anything new about, as it's the same old thing it's always been, and we're not dealing with that, but the practice of the Church is what we're trying to learn and change.
Saturday, January 9, 2010
In talking about practical Church life, let's briefly define what I
mean by it: it's about the best ways to interact with one another as
Christian believers outside of the existing, man made church systems.
The purpose in pursuing something like this is the inability for
Christians to fulfil their mandate to be priests unto God under what
are considered 'traditional' practice of the church. Such as sitting
in a chair or pew for your entire life receiving varying degrees of
input - many times not even biblical input - which does nothing
more than to turn you into meaningless and spiritually worthless
moss on a rock, as you eventually get socialized into your comfort
zone and lose all desire and inspiration to participate in the great
fellowship of the Father and His son Jesus Christ together.
For example, how does one experience being a practical part of the
body of Christ as far as functioning goes? How do you express
yourself as part of the body of Christ when the only opportunities
are to sit and listen to what have been named sermons? At what time,
as measured by the the church you're part of, are you given chances
to share what Christ has done in, to or for you? How often are you
allowed to do that? What has been practically put in place to offer
believers the biblical requirement to share with one another? When
is the last time some type of so-called clergy has shut up and you
and other believers were doing the talking and sharing?
For the vast majority of people the answers to these questions,
sadly, are never. This is one of the major reasons we have such a
low-quality of Christian today, as they're not given the opportunity
to stretch their spiritual muscles and grow as a result.
Although this begins with a way of looking at the body of Christ and
it's purpose, it ends with the implementing of practical steps which
ensure the chance to live this way as the people of Jesus Christ is
presented to all who want to know more of Him; both individually and
corporately.
With this in mind, I want to show you several ways I've practically
experienced living outside the institutional or organized church
that has worked well to varying degrees, and each has its own
strength and weaknesses. After over 50 years of living like this, I
think I've pretty much found the only ways this can be done, and
some times it takes a combination of more than one to make it really
work well.
Born into body life
My first experience in body life was from the day I was born, as it
was part of my dad's and mom's life far before I was a twinkle in
their eyes.
You have to understand that this was back in the 1950s, and before
the strong interest in body life as we would look at it today was
rediscovered, and also before the Jesus people movement, which
generated a lot of interest just because it was very organic in its
nature, even with some of the unfortunate excesses connected with
it, which unfairly painted everyone with the same brushstroke, even
though it was far from true.
Anyway, what the practicals involved with this were the church
decided years before I was born in 1956 to buy a piece of land in
the country for the purpose of having a type of weekend retreat in
the summer months (I was born and lived in northern Minnesota, so
winters made it impractical for families to be there during that
time of the year).
What eventually happened was we got so close to one another during
these times that to not go up there, even when the weather was bad,
would be unheard of. We didn't miss a weekend, and it forever
changed our lives with the light that we had at the time.
The land itself was both flat and hilly, so you could partake in
some group activities, which always added to relaxing us for the
purpose of opening up to one another more when we sat and talked and
shared.
There was also a building built for the purpose of people who didn't
have camping trailers and such to be able to stay in bedrooms which
were located upstairs.
Downstairs there was a square hall with a large fireplace which
created great atmosphere and place to sit back and relax as well. We
had chairs in racks we could take out to sit on whenever we wanted
to get together for a meeting or whatever. There was also a cooking
area off the front area you could go through a door to to make you
dinner if you didn't want to barbecue outside, etc.
On the other part of the downstairs was an outer area (surrounding
the square hall) where there were tables where people could gather
together to eat as family and friends.
The idea was there were several things set up for moments when we
just wanted recreational down time, while everything else was set
for the purpose of enjoying all the aspects of fellowship together.
Bear in mind, that while this sounds all upper class and stuff like
that, in reality it was built by the brothers long before who knew
and practiced carpentry and other needed skills, and was in fact
very sturdy but humble; not a type of place where people wanting
only the 'American Plan' would necessarily go to.
It was very functional and added needed privacy, but also build in a
way you had to fellowship unless you stayed in your room or campers
for the whole time you were there.
It would take a book to write about the experiences of this
fantastic place with all the people there, but the bottom line is it
was something that existed for the purpose of organic church life
far before the word was even being used, or we had ever heard it,
and it was extraordinary in that the children of my age were
basically born into the experience without knowing anything else
like it.
The strength of this type of practical setup is it gives you some
room to move and hang out with people in a very uncrowded sort of
way, while still always being together.
For many of you who struggle with figuring out ways to incorporate
children into your organic church life, I don't think there's
anything that could do better than this as the type of environment
conducive to bringing that forth.
Another extraordinary strength of this practical way of meeting and
living together (albeit temporarily in the summer and primarily on
weekends, although some stayed almost all summer or weeks at a
time), was the much-needed intergenerational fellowship and
friendship, which amazingly thrived at a time when the social fabric
of the world and America were being torn apart in the 1960s
rebellion (in the negative sense of the actions of the time).
There wasn't a sense at all of being afraid to hang out with older
people at that time by the younger, and in fact, there were strong
and healthy relational ties between many of the younger people and
older, without it always being natural parents and children alone.
It truly went beyond that to a very spontaneous way of living and
life that I'll never forget, and hopefully many will be able to
experience as well.
I don't look at that experience as necessarily the best way to
experience body life, but I do think it's a fantastic way to enhance
it a minimum, and could be a big part of it if you were to do it
right and have other means of getting together on a more consistent
basis.
Even so, I would highly recommend something like this for those
already in body life. It's something you probably need, and I think,
'feel' you need, although you may not be able to put it into words.
This doesn't mean you have to go out and buy a piece of land and
build a home-like type of place to enjoy (although it would be great
if you could), but you could find a place that was available on a
regular basis you could rent for yourselves and make it an important
part of body life you participate in.
Another valuable thing this could be would be to test out whether
you're truly part of a people who would want to live in this way.
Sharing live together in a setting like this is a good way to test
the waters and see if it's something you could do or not. While I
think the way the scriptures speak of these things there's really no
other choice in the sense of sharing our lives together on a
consist ant basis, for some of you reading this is may be too much at
first, and so trying it out in this manner could be a great way to
see how you respond to it.
After all, reading about something his one thing, participating and
experiencing it is another.
For those of you already meeting outside of buildings, there are
many other tremendous lessons to learn from something like this, but
we'll leave that for another time.
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Meeting in Homes, living close together
Another experience I've had is to meet in homes as far as when the
church gets together to share Christ and to live close together.
In my years as an adult, when I met a group of people that were
doing this, it was a natural an easy extension and practice to move
into it after what I mentioned above while I was growing up.
This was a little different than living in a neighborhood together,
as while we lived close together, we didn't get real close until
some church planters from Britain who had built churches in that
manner helped us see the value of that.
So what we did in the beginning of being planted by a church planter
(outside the institutional church), was to meet in homes and get
together all the time outside of meetings as well.
As we grew in size, we eventually had to multiply into four groups
because there were too many people to practice church in the way we
had at the beginning.
Some people who have been seeing and doing this today have been a
little put off by this, saying it had broken up some close
relationships they've had with other people. While that may be true,
it really isn't the point when you come down to it. The church is
for Christ, and many people need to be able to experience the beauty
of fellowship with one another in Christ.
While close relationships in Christ are great and a worthy goal,
they are not the end of the purpose of Christ. In reality what can
happen in these types of relationships are the development of what I
would call 'soul ties.' Relationships built on the people we get
along the easiest with, or possibly may have very similar personal
goals and ways of looking at things.
I don't mean by that that you haven't struggled together, just that
it could have resulted in ties that are no longer only spiritual,
but soulical as well. If that's the case, you could strongly resist
change, even if it comes from the Holy Spirit, and end up being
pretty much a dead sea, with input coming in all the time, but no
place for an outlet, where that life you share goes beyond yourself
and the close group of brothers and sisters surrounding you.
What in fact is probably happening is a fear of losing what you've
worked so hard to build, or rather, what the Lord has worked so hard
to build.
If you've been together long enough to feel these things, be
cautious as to how you respond, because if the Lord is trying to
expand Himself and add to your number, if you resist it, ultimately
you will probably divide, as you can willingly multiply or
unwillingly divide. While the results may be the same as far as no
longer being around the same people you've grown so fond of, the
consequences are obviously worse if things are torn apart in a
negative way.
But I'm speaking in these last words to those of you who have been
around for a number of years together, not those who haven't been
around enough to truly be tested over a period of years.
The obvious strength of living like this is we had all the benefits
of meeting in a home in a very organic and spontaneous meeting
setting. The negative was we would have to make extra effort to get
together. That was negative because when it takes extra effort, the
result is you get together with those who you consider worth the
effort, and will miss out on getting to know and fellowship with
people you don't see very often.
While this isn't a bad thing as far as being in you, it's a
practical problem from living apart from one another.
Either way, it's far superior to going to a building and listening
to sermons all your life.
One final thing, in this type of setting, there are those that live
close together and those that are scattered. Without exception in my
experience in a number of different places and churches, those that
live scattered and not close to the core group of people, always
feel left out, and many times complain that they aren't included in
what's going on in contrast to those who live closer together and
have an easy task of getting together spontaneously.
In this type of circumstance, I've never found an answer to this, as
the one's who are living scattered, will never be able to live in
the way those living closer together do. To have everybody stop
living and doing things spontaneously together so those farther away
feel better about themselves isn't something I could ask those
churches I've planted to do. The only answer is to move closer
together, which leads me to the next practical way to live life as
the church outside the institutional church system.
Living in a neighborhood
I've lived in church life as a regular brother for a number of years
in a neighborhood, as well as planted churches that way.
Living in a neighborhood is extraordinary in that you eliminate any
practical barriers to fellowship, other than going about your daily
responsibilities.
But as far as getting together and sharing life together, it
probably beats anything else.
One way this is superior to only meeting in homes and having a lot
of people traveling, is the inevitable complaints from neighbors if
you have to drive to get to the home you're going to meet in. You
know neighbors will rightfully ask you to not park in the spots they
park in, which can create a lot of animosity, especially if they
find out you're meeting as a church in the home.
Some I've known have asked those doing this to travel in cars or
vehicles together in order to minimize the space they take up. This
can help in those cases.
Anyway, the point is, living in a neighborhood together eliminates
this type of problem because you simply have to walk to go to the
home you meet in.
But more than this little practical benefit, having the ability to
get together whenever you want to is something that can't be
explained and only can be lived. To share the life of Christ on an
everyday basis with other believers is something we all should be
able to experience.
Sure, you have the struggles that always come when human beings
interact with one another, but those edges can be knocked off in
time and patience, and eventually a great experience of sharing in
the life of Christ among a corporate people is unleashed.
While there is no doubt to me that living in a neighborhood is the
best way to experience church life together, I would say that with
one caveat after decades of doing that personally in a number of
corporate settings: you need a release valve off and on so you don't
become too suffocated from the experience.
This is why I mentioned above about the first practical body life
setting I experienced, and said it was a great way to enhance body
life. I'm referring to having that as part of your experience, as
living in a neighborhood can end up giving you a dead sea experience
if you're not going outside of it to do other things.
I think a setting out in the country, or a place you can rent,
really helps to solve many of the problems that come with living
close together. Having an open space like that really adds to your
quality of life in the Lord, and I think the two work together
better than the one.
Like I said, there is a ton more I could write on this as far as how
the experiences of these different types of body life are, but
overall, these are about the only legitimate alternatives you have
if you live in the western or emerging nations.
Obviously there are all sorts of secondary things you can do, like
planning all types of special events to enjoy and express the Lord
toward one another, but these are the foundations you have to
practically work from.
The only other option is to go to the building and sit.
Buying a home to meet in
One last thing connected to all of this is something I've seen some
of the brethren in Britain do years ago, and that was not to just
meet in homes, but to buy a home for the group to meet in or do
other things with.
I like this because it allows you to think of taking care of some
practical issues which can come up when meeting together as a group
in a home built for a family.
As with everything, there are pros and cons with this as well. For
example, one church bought a home like this, but also set it up for
brothers and sisters who visited them from other areas and
countries.
The problem was some brothers and sisters liked to be in a home and
not alone while visiting them. I'm not sure, but possibly a lot of
people came to visit, and so the home may have been an escape valve
for the church itself as far as stress on the believers in offering
hospitality to the point of collapsing. I don't know that for a
fact, but it's possible.
There is also a sense of having a home like this so people can stay
and hang out as long as they want, especially if some have children
you need to go to be at an early time.
I know some control freaks get frightened at the prospects of others
hanging out together if everyone's not there, but I think that's not
something to be overly concerned about.
If someone is going to gossip or talk about things, eventually that
will happen whether you try to stamp it out or not. Usually the
attempt and fear over things like that can end up with the solution
being worse than the original concern.
A proper foundation will help fight against that, and if someone
isn't founded in the Lord properly, they'll end up being influenced
somewhere down the road by somebody, so we shouldn't be too
concerned about people hanging out together in that sense.
The point is that for the most part a home bought by the church to
meet in and use will primarily be for those living in the
neighborhood anyway, so there's not that much to be worried about.
Final words on practical church issues
One final thing I wanted to say here, is that all of this won't
matter if you aren't doing these things unto the Lord and because of
the revelation of Jesus Christ which moves within you and drives you
to want to live in this way together.
No matter what practical steps you take, If Christ isn't the purpose
in it, it will fail no matter how right you get the practicals.
What the practicals do is give you the environment for the types
things and life the Lord Jesus Christ likes to live out among His
people; that and nothing else.
So doing all of this will do nothing if you don't see that Jesus
Christ wants to live and walk among His people, and that taking away
all the props and crutches allows that to happen in the most
efficient way this side of paradise.
Don't get me wrong, sharing in the life of Christ is best done in
the ways mentioned above, but if you don't center on and look to
Christ as your life and recognize that these are His ways, you can
have a fun and interesting experience, like you could anywhere, but
if it's devoid of Christ, it won't make any difference.
In the end, I think the best way to experience Christ corporately is
to live as close together as you can and then to have a place
somewhere which you either own or rent, which you can have various
activities and interactions in ways which allow you to let off
steam, and to offer up intergenerational fellowship across all age
groups in a way that goes beyond simply meeting together.
After all, meetings should simply be a culmination of the life we
life together with Christ on a daily basis. All sorts of fellowship
and life should be happening outside of meetings as well. Having a
place outside the neighborhood adds something to that which I think
answers a lot of questions for those who have lived in body life for
a long time but don't understand why they're feeling limited or
sufficated.
The reason is more practical than it is negative, and those trying
these types of things will find a new release that they've been
searching for for a long time.
mean by it: it's about the best ways to interact with one another as
Christian believers outside of the existing, man made church systems.
The purpose in pursuing something like this is the inability for
Christians to fulfil their mandate to be priests unto God under what
are considered 'traditional' practice of the church. Such as sitting
in a chair or pew for your entire life receiving varying degrees of
input - many times not even biblical input - which does nothing
more than to turn you into meaningless and spiritually worthless
moss on a rock, as you eventually get socialized into your comfort
zone and lose all desire and inspiration to participate in the great
fellowship of the Father and His son Jesus Christ together.
For example, how does one experience being a practical part of the
body of Christ as far as functioning goes? How do you express
yourself as part of the body of Christ when the only opportunities
are to sit and listen to what have been named sermons? At what time,
as measured by the the church you're part of, are you given chances
to share what Christ has done in, to or for you? How often are you
allowed to do that? What has been practically put in place to offer
believers the biblical requirement to share with one another? When
is the last time some type of so-called clergy has shut up and you
and other believers were doing the talking and sharing?
For the vast majority of people the answers to these questions,
sadly, are never. This is one of the major reasons we have such a
low-quality of Christian today, as they're not given the opportunity
to stretch their spiritual muscles and grow as a result.
Although this begins with a way of looking at the body of Christ and
it's purpose, it ends with the implementing of practical steps which
ensure the chance to live this way as the people of Jesus Christ is
presented to all who want to know more of Him; both individually and
corporately.
With this in mind, I want to show you several ways I've practically
experienced living outside the institutional or organized church
that has worked well to varying degrees, and each has its own
strength and weaknesses. After over 50 years of living like this, I
think I've pretty much found the only ways this can be done, and
some times it takes a combination of more than one to make it really
work well.
Born into body life
My first experience in body life was from the day I was born, as it
was part of my dad's and mom's life far before I was a twinkle in
their eyes.
You have to understand that this was back in the 1950s, and before
the strong interest in body life as we would look at it today was
rediscovered, and also before the Jesus people movement, which
generated a lot of interest just because it was very organic in its
nature, even with some of the unfortunate excesses connected with
it, which unfairly painted everyone with the same brushstroke, even
though it was far from true.
Anyway, what the practicals involved with this were the church
decided years before I was born in 1956 to buy a piece of land in
the country for the purpose of having a type of weekend retreat in
the summer months (I was born and lived in northern Minnesota, so
winters made it impractical for families to be there during that
time of the year).
What eventually happened was we got so close to one another during
these times that to not go up there, even when the weather was bad,
would be unheard of. We didn't miss a weekend, and it forever
changed our lives with the light that we had at the time.
The land itself was both flat and hilly, so you could partake in
some group activities, which always added to relaxing us for the
purpose of opening up to one another more when we sat and talked and
shared.
There was also a building built for the purpose of people who didn't
have camping trailers and such to be able to stay in bedrooms which
were located upstairs.
Downstairs there was a square hall with a large fireplace which
created great atmosphere and place to sit back and relax as well. We
had chairs in racks we could take out to sit on whenever we wanted
to get together for a meeting or whatever. There was also a cooking
area off the front area you could go through a door to to make you
dinner if you didn't want to barbecue outside, etc.
On the other part of the downstairs was an outer area (surrounding
the square hall) where there were tables where people could gather
together to eat as family and friends.
The idea was there were several things set up for moments when we
just wanted recreational down time, while everything else was set
for the purpose of enjoying all the aspects of fellowship together.
Bear in mind, that while this sounds all upper class and stuff like
that, in reality it was built by the brothers long before who knew
and practiced carpentry and other needed skills, and was in fact
very sturdy but humble; not a type of place where people wanting
only the 'American Plan' would necessarily go to.
It was very functional and added needed privacy, but also build in a
way you had to fellowship unless you stayed in your room or campers
for the whole time you were there.
It would take a book to write about the experiences of this
fantastic place with all the people there, but the bottom line is it
was something that existed for the purpose of organic church life
far before the word was even being used, or we had ever heard it,
and it was extraordinary in that the children of my age were
basically born into the experience without knowing anything else
like it.
The strength of this type of practical setup is it gives you some
room to move and hang out with people in a very uncrowded sort of
way, while still always being together.
For many of you who struggle with figuring out ways to incorporate
children into your organic church life, I don't think there's
anything that could do better than this as the type of environment
conducive to bringing that forth.
Another extraordinary strength of this practical way of meeting and
living together (albeit temporarily in the summer and primarily on
weekends, although some stayed almost all summer or weeks at a
time), was the much-needed intergenerational fellowship and
friendship, which amazingly thrived at a time when the social fabric
of the world and America were being torn apart in the 1960s
rebellion (in the negative sense of the actions of the time).
There wasn't a sense at all of being afraid to hang out with older
people at that time by the younger, and in fact, there were strong
and healthy relational ties between many of the younger people and
older, without it always being natural parents and children alone.
It truly went beyond that to a very spontaneous way of living and
life that I'll never forget, and hopefully many will be able to
experience as well.
I don't look at that experience as necessarily the best way to
experience body life, but I do think it's a fantastic way to enhance
it a minimum, and could be a big part of it if you were to do it
right and have other means of getting together on a more consistent
basis.
Even so, I would highly recommend something like this for those
already in body life. It's something you probably need, and I think,
'feel' you need, although you may not be able to put it into words.
This doesn't mean you have to go out and buy a piece of land and
build a home-like type of place to enjoy (although it would be great
if you could), but you could find a place that was available on a
regular basis you could rent for yourselves and make it an important
part of body life you participate in.
Another valuable thing this could be would be to test out whether
you're truly part of a people who would want to live in this way.
Sharing live together in a setting like this is a good way to test
the waters and see if it's something you could do or not. While I
think the way the scriptures speak of these things there's really no
other choice in the sense of sharing our lives together on a
consist ant basis, for some of you reading this is may be too much at
first, and so trying it out in this manner could be a great way to
see how you respond to it.
After all, reading about something his one thing, participating and
experiencing it is another.
For those of you already meeting outside of buildings, there are
many other tremendous lessons to learn from something like this, but
we'll leave that for another time.
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Meeting in Homes, living close together
Another experience I've had is to meet in homes as far as when the
church gets together to share Christ and to live close together.
In my years as an adult, when I met a group of people that were
doing this, it was a natural an easy extension and practice to move
into it after what I mentioned above while I was growing up.
This was a little different than living in a neighborhood together,
as while we lived close together, we didn't get real close until
some church planters from Britain who had built churches in that
manner helped us see the value of that.
So what we did in the beginning of being planted by a church planter
(outside the institutional church), was to meet in homes and get
together all the time outside of meetings as well.
As we grew in size, we eventually had to multiply into four groups
because there were too many people to practice church in the way we
had at the beginning.
Some people who have been seeing and doing this today have been a
little put off by this, saying it had broken up some close
relationships they've had with other people. While that may be true,
it really isn't the point when you come down to it. The church is
for Christ, and many people need to be able to experience the beauty
of fellowship with one another in Christ.
While close relationships in Christ are great and a worthy goal,
they are not the end of the purpose of Christ. In reality what can
happen in these types of relationships are the development of what I
would call 'soul ties.' Relationships built on the people we get
along the easiest with, or possibly may have very similar personal
goals and ways of looking at things.
I don't mean by that that you haven't struggled together, just that
it could have resulted in ties that are no longer only spiritual,
but soulical as well. If that's the case, you could strongly resist
change, even if it comes from the Holy Spirit, and end up being
pretty much a dead sea, with input coming in all the time, but no
place for an outlet, where that life you share goes beyond yourself
and the close group of brothers and sisters surrounding you.
What in fact is probably happening is a fear of losing what you've
worked so hard to build, or rather, what the Lord has worked so hard
to build.
If you've been together long enough to feel these things, be
cautious as to how you respond, because if the Lord is trying to
expand Himself and add to your number, if you resist it, ultimately
you will probably divide, as you can willingly multiply or
unwillingly divide. While the results may be the same as far as no
longer being around the same people you've grown so fond of, the
consequences are obviously worse if things are torn apart in a
negative way.
But I'm speaking in these last words to those of you who have been
around for a number of years together, not those who haven't been
around enough to truly be tested over a period of years.
The obvious strength of living like this is we had all the benefits
of meeting in a home in a very organic and spontaneous meeting
setting. The negative was we would have to make extra effort to get
together. That was negative because when it takes extra effort, the
result is you get together with those who you consider worth the
effort, and will miss out on getting to know and fellowship with
people you don't see very often.
While this isn't a bad thing as far as being in you, it's a
practical problem from living apart from one another.
Either way, it's far superior to going to a building and listening
to sermons all your life.
One final thing, in this type of setting, there are those that live
close together and those that are scattered. Without exception in my
experience in a number of different places and churches, those that
live scattered and not close to the core group of people, always
feel left out, and many times complain that they aren't included in
what's going on in contrast to those who live closer together and
have an easy task of getting together spontaneously.
In this type of circumstance, I've never found an answer to this, as
the one's who are living scattered, will never be able to live in
the way those living closer together do. To have everybody stop
living and doing things spontaneously together so those farther away
feel better about themselves isn't something I could ask those
churches I've planted to do. The only answer is to move closer
together, which leads me to the next practical way to live life as
the church outside the institutional church system.
Living in a neighborhood
I've lived in church life as a regular brother for a number of years
in a neighborhood, as well as planted churches that way.
Living in a neighborhood is extraordinary in that you eliminate any
practical barriers to fellowship, other than going about your daily
responsibilities.
But as far as getting together and sharing life together, it
probably beats anything else.
One way this is superior to only meeting in homes and having a lot
of people traveling, is the inevitable complaints from neighbors if
you have to drive to get to the home you're going to meet in. You
know neighbors will rightfully ask you to not park in the spots they
park in, which can create a lot of animosity, especially if they
find out you're meeting as a church in the home.
Some I've known have asked those doing this to travel in cars or
vehicles together in order to minimize the space they take up. This
can help in those cases.
Anyway, the point is, living in a neighborhood together eliminates
this type of problem because you simply have to walk to go to the
home you meet in.
But more than this little practical benefit, having the ability to
get together whenever you want to is something that can't be
explained and only can be lived. To share the life of Christ on an
everyday basis with other believers is something we all should be
able to experience.
Sure, you have the struggles that always come when human beings
interact with one another, but those edges can be knocked off in
time and patience, and eventually a great experience of sharing in
the life of Christ among a corporate people is unleashed.
While there is no doubt to me that living in a neighborhood is the
best way to experience church life together, I would say that with
one caveat after decades of doing that personally in a number of
corporate settings: you need a release valve off and on so you don't
become too suffocated from the experience.
This is why I mentioned above about the first practical body life
setting I experienced, and said it was a great way to enhance body
life. I'm referring to having that as part of your experience, as
living in a neighborhood can end up giving you a dead sea experience
if you're not going outside of it to do other things.
I think a setting out in the country, or a place you can rent,
really helps to solve many of the problems that come with living
close together. Having an open space like that really adds to your
quality of life in the Lord, and I think the two work together
better than the one.
Like I said, there is a ton more I could write on this as far as how
the experiences of these different types of body life are, but
overall, these are about the only legitimate alternatives you have
if you live in the western or emerging nations.
Obviously there are all sorts of secondary things you can do, like
planning all types of special events to enjoy and express the Lord
toward one another, but these are the foundations you have to
practically work from.
The only other option is to go to the building and sit.
Buying a home to meet in
One last thing connected to all of this is something I've seen some
of the brethren in Britain do years ago, and that was not to just
meet in homes, but to buy a home for the group to meet in or do
other things with.
I like this because it allows you to think of taking care of some
practical issues which can come up when meeting together as a group
in a home built for a family.
As with everything, there are pros and cons with this as well. For
example, one church bought a home like this, but also set it up for
brothers and sisters who visited them from other areas and
countries.
The problem was some brothers and sisters liked to be in a home and
not alone while visiting them. I'm not sure, but possibly a lot of
people came to visit, and so the home may have been an escape valve
for the church itself as far as stress on the believers in offering
hospitality to the point of collapsing. I don't know that for a
fact, but it's possible.
There is also a sense of having a home like this so people can stay
and hang out as long as they want, especially if some have children
you need to go to be at an early time.
I know some control freaks get frightened at the prospects of others
hanging out together if everyone's not there, but I think that's not
something to be overly concerned about.
If someone is going to gossip or talk about things, eventually that
will happen whether you try to stamp it out or not. Usually the
attempt and fear over things like that can end up with the solution
being worse than the original concern.
A proper foundation will help fight against that, and if someone
isn't founded in the Lord properly, they'll end up being influenced
somewhere down the road by somebody, so we shouldn't be too
concerned about people hanging out together in that sense.
The point is that for the most part a home bought by the church to
meet in and use will primarily be for those living in the
neighborhood anyway, so there's not that much to be worried about.
Final words on practical church issues
One final thing I wanted to say here, is that all of this won't
matter if you aren't doing these things unto the Lord and because of
the revelation of Jesus Christ which moves within you and drives you
to want to live in this way together.
No matter what practical steps you take, If Christ isn't the purpose
in it, it will fail no matter how right you get the practicals.
What the practicals do is give you the environment for the types
things and life the Lord Jesus Christ likes to live out among His
people; that and nothing else.
So doing all of this will do nothing if you don't see that Jesus
Christ wants to live and walk among His people, and that taking away
all the props and crutches allows that to happen in the most
efficient way this side of paradise.
Don't get me wrong, sharing in the life of Christ is best done in
the ways mentioned above, but if you don't center on and look to
Christ as your life and recognize that these are His ways, you can
have a fun and interesting experience, like you could anywhere, but
if it's devoid of Christ, it won't make any difference.
In the end, I think the best way to experience Christ corporately is
to live as close together as you can and then to have a place
somewhere which you either own or rent, which you can have various
activities and interactions in ways which allow you to let off
steam, and to offer up intergenerational fellowship across all age
groups in a way that goes beyond simply meeting together.
After all, meetings should simply be a culmination of the life we
life together with Christ on a daily basis. All sorts of fellowship
and life should be happening outside of meetings as well. Having a
place outside the neighborhood adds something to that which I think
answers a lot of questions for those who have lived in body life for
a long time but don't understand why they're feeling limited or
sufficated.
The reason is more practical than it is negative, and those trying
these types of things will find a new release that they've been
searching for for a long time.
Thursday, September 18, 2008

What is it that the Father wants to do in time and history? Most seem to get confused when the term eternal purpose is used and can get bogged down in uncertainty and confusion.
Let's look at it from the perspective of God narrating who He is to the visible and invisible worlds through telling the story of who He is via His people.
The end result of the fulfillment of God's eternal purpose is that He will be all in all. That means that from the perspective of telling a story, God will unfold Himself in His people over generations; not in only one generation.
At the point where God started the visible creation, the creation of the invisibles was complete, and He started His kingdom and will in the physical creation based on the perfected invisible world.
In other words, while things in the heavens are done immediately, things in the visible world follow progressively. That's the way of life in the visible creation. It's also why many people get frustrated with God, as they look for immediacy, when God, for the most part, works and reveals things progressively.
While there are occasional exceptions, overall this is the way God lives and works within and through us in the seen world.
Part One; Part Two; Part 3
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Sunday, April 6, 2008

This site is called Acts 29 Review because it's a declaration that Jesus Christ is continuing to work with His people, and the story of the church and its purpose didn't end at the closing of the last words of Acts.
God continues to write his story in the hearts of people willing to listen and respond. That's why Paul said concerning the churches he planted that they were a letter written for all men to read. That letter is to be Jesus Christ Himself worked into a people, being seen and read by all who view them.
That's the essence of what the narrative of Acts was and why the Holy Spirit, through Luke, wrote it. That narrative is still being written today, although the vast majority of those calling themselves Christians don't want to be in the story as Christ wants it written.
This blog or website exists so it can be understood that the people of God are meant to continue on in their testimony of Jesus Christ. Not simply as words repeated from bible versus, but by a people that embrace those words and Christ in obedience. Then as we're changed into His image, reflecting who He is to the people on this earth.
That's a story that will never end, and needs again to be embraced by the real followers of Jesus Christ.
The bottom line in the Church and all of life on this earth for believers is this: "While there was some initial testimony, the Apostles did not formulate in conference an enterprise, a mission, with all the related arrangements and organization. The new Life forced off the old leaves and dressed the new organism with a new vesture from within. The might, energy and urge of the Holy Spirit within produced a Way and an order, un-thought-of, unintended by them, and always to their own surprise. What was happening was really that Christ was taking form within them, individually and corporately, by new birth and growth. The believers and the companies were becoming an expression of Christ." - T. Austin-Sparks
That all begins in the individual believer, and when those carrying the life of Christ within them find one another; a city can truly be found whose builder and maker is God.
From there the life of Christ spreads out and permeates all the areas of life that are touched by His people. Eventually the knowledge of the Lord will fill the earth and everyone will know Him from the least to the greatest. In other words, Jesus will become Lord over all areas of our lives. He is of course already Lord of all, but it must be worked out practically in our daily lives.
With that in mind, we'll talk about the life of Christ within and how He overflows without to touch the world with Himself. From there His kingdom comes and will is done on the earth as it is in heaven.
It points to the answer to the prayer Jesus taught us to pray: "They kingdom come and thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven." It's a prayer that He will respond to and answer on our behalf, for His sake. This will continue to be the case until Jesus calls everyone out of the grave at the end of time.
Until then, He will continue to work to conform His people to His image, that He may be all in all.
Part of that conformity is to exercise our kingly authority by taking dominion over God's creation. We were created to do so, and those willing to prepare for and take on that responsibility, are on the threshold of ruling and reigning in this life by Christ Jesus in a way they never understood , saw, or believed possible.
The kingdom of God is rising. Yes, it starts within, but like the high priest moving from the Holy of Holies to the outer court of the physical creation, so is Jesus Christ moving from within His people to the outer courts of the world.
There will be the inevitable clash of the kingdoms, but there is no doubt who the victor will be, as we work from the victory already accomplished by Christ.
Acts 29 Review exists to help navigate the dominion waters; putting into context the meaning of the many battles while they are being fought, and to enter into the conflict as well.
So don't be afraid of the weaponization of the followers of Jesus Christ. It was inevitable that the time would come when people and events would require and demand a response, and that time is now.
By weaponization, I'm referring to testing down enemy strongholds and obliterating them. We should ask for no quarter and give no quarter. More than any time in history, the time for mixture is past. We aren't of this world, and it has nothing to offer the followers of Jesus Christ.
Those attempting to placate and negotiate will find themselves overwhelmed. The battle lines have already been drawn, our families under siege, and our children and grandchildren abandoning God.
I have not interest in taking over the corrupt institutions of this world, but rather in seeing a birthing of the kingdom of God outside of them. In other words, alternative education, distribution channels and churches, among numerous other areas of life.
God will be all in all. Let us engage the enemy and open our own hearts to God so this will become a reality on earth, as it is in heaven.
We'll also talk about the evil that is permeating the world; exposing it, challenging it, praying against it, and finally, looking for ways we can do something about it.
If you're interested in more, contact me at this email address:
Contact: geeb@hotmail.com
Friday, December 14, 2007

I want to say something about endurance that I haven’t heard mentioned much: Its main application and focus is in relationship to the church.
While there is application in our everyday individual and family lives, overall the eternal application relates to the people of God with one another.
When you are able to see it, it is amazing how everything in the scriptures ties into Christ and His church in connection to His eternal purpose.
Endurance is another of these tremendous things.
For example, how can we even begin to experience and enter into the eternal purpose of Jesus Christ without having endurance? It can’t be done.
First we must learn to endure the working of God in our lives.
Then we must learn to endure others. Since fellowship with God is the overall umbrella over His eternal purpose, there isn’t far to go before it extends to one another.
So to give the purpose of God a chance to work within us together, there must be much fortitude and staying power. If there isn’t, the purpose of God will never be worked out within our lives. It’s that simple.
Since endurance is Christ, we must continually be in fellowship with Him and the Father so that we may have this vital aspect of Him worked within us. If we don’t we will never stay together long enough to have the eternal purpose worked within us.
That’s why Paul prayed that the church would be strengthened with all might according to the glorious power of God, to the end that we would be patient and longsuffering toward one another with joyfulness.
Without this being worked within us, we can never fulfill the purpose of God in the earth.
Thursday, August 30, 2007
There are many who feel that Peter Waldo had a direct hand in helping to found that group of people that history has labeled the ‘Waldensians.’ While others believe that they existed long before Peter was born.
None of this really matters, for there can be no doubt that he played a part and had an influence upon them no matter what stage their existence was at.
I think that one of the characteristics that set Peter apart wasn’t so much what his doctrine was as the way he lived. There came a time in his life that he believed God had called him to sell all that he had and go and preach the gospel. After doing that and leaving enough for his wife to live on, he obeyed and went and did it.
At a time when the love of money was so part of the religious system, this was quite a step to take.
While at first this was embraced by the religious leaders, eventually they grew quite uncomfortable with his way of life. Not so much that he went about poor, but rather that they didn’t have a say in what he did.
What is tremendous about this is that in his own fellowship with the Father and Jesus, he was given instruction to do something and he obeyed and did it. Now this was something that the religious leaders couldn’t and wouldn’t tolerate. After all, what would God be doing talking to someone like Peter without consulting them first and getting their approval?
So with the consistent monotony of the religious system, they attempted to shut him up. As usual it didn’t work. When God wants to do something, He just doesn’t like religion getting in His way.
Like others, Peter and those who participated in these things went out and preached the gospel to those who would hear them. They went out by twos and had a huge impact on the world of that day.
Because he refused the popes admonition to stop preaching, he and others with him were excommunicated. This did nothing to deter them from continuing to do the Lord’s will as He moved within their spirits and reached out to a world desperately in need of a real testimony of who Christ was.
Again, to me the significance of Peter Waldo was that he showed forth the ancient unction to fellowship with Christ and the Father outside of any human mediator. This inevitably rubs paganistic, religious systems the wrong way. Somebody always wants to try to manipulate and control what they think God should do within human beings. This will always fail as history has proven.
Peter Waldo, and those with him, have shown us that actions and practices that come from fellowshipping with God has always been the result that comes from His eternal purpose.
It is that fellowship that the world and religious systems and power seekers hate. After all, where is the need for mediators when we can know Him directly ourselves? This is the testimony that Peter Waldo left us.
None of this really matters, for there can be no doubt that he played a part and had an influence upon them no matter what stage their existence was at.
I think that one of the characteristics that set Peter apart wasn’t so much what his doctrine was as the way he lived. There came a time in his life that he believed God had called him to sell all that he had and go and preach the gospel. After doing that and leaving enough for his wife to live on, he obeyed and went and did it.
At a time when the love of money was so part of the religious system, this was quite a step to take.
While at first this was embraced by the religious leaders, eventually they grew quite uncomfortable with his way of life. Not so much that he went about poor, but rather that they didn’t have a say in what he did.
What is tremendous about this is that in his own fellowship with the Father and Jesus, he was given instruction to do something and he obeyed and did it. Now this was something that the religious leaders couldn’t and wouldn’t tolerate. After all, what would God be doing talking to someone like Peter without consulting them first and getting their approval?
So with the consistent monotony of the religious system, they attempted to shut him up. As usual it didn’t work. When God wants to do something, He just doesn’t like religion getting in His way.
Like others, Peter and those who participated in these things went out and preached the gospel to those who would hear them. They went out by twos and had a huge impact on the world of that day.
Because he refused the popes admonition to stop preaching, he and others with him were excommunicated. This did nothing to deter them from continuing to do the Lord’s will as He moved within their spirits and reached out to a world desperately in need of a real testimony of who Christ was.
Again, to me the significance of Peter Waldo was that he showed forth the ancient unction to fellowship with Christ and the Father outside of any human mediator. This inevitably rubs paganistic, religious systems the wrong way. Somebody always wants to try to manipulate and control what they think God should do within human beings. This will always fail as history has proven.
Peter Waldo, and those with him, have shown us that actions and practices that come from fellowshipping with God has always been the result that comes from His eternal purpose.
It is that fellowship that the world and religious systems and power seekers hate. After all, where is the need for mediators when we can know Him directly ourselves? This is the testimony that Peter Waldo left us.
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In writing about Silvanus, I want to mention first that his original name was Constantine, but so you don’t in any way confuse him with the pagan emperor Constantine, I will call him only by the name he adopted after going through a strong experience from God.
What began his life’s work was a providential meeting that was set up by God. A man journeying on his way back home was entertained by Silvanus and taken in to his home. The traveler had with him the four gospels and the letters of Paul. They began reading and sharing them together. As a result when the guest left, he gave them to Silvanus.
The continuing seeking and entering into these scriptures brought around a dramatic transformation within him.
It was at this point that he changed his name and began to share with others the tremendous things that were happening to him. He and others began to reject the worship and superstitious adoration of icons and images. This brought about a strong response from the religious authorities.
The great contribution that Silvanus gave us was the passion to go back and see how the early church lived out their lives in Christ and then he would take those things and impart that to others.
Another terrific part of what Christ was doing in him was the desire to return to the simplicity that is in Christ. The religious behemoth had become so worldly that it was incapable of imparting any type of life to others in any way. The politics of religious power and devious stratagems permeated the institutional religious organization.
This simplicity in Christ and passion for doing things as Christ would have them started to spread everywhere.
One of the other great insights that Silvanus entered into in practice was the work of planting churches like the original apostles did. This was a tremendous, powerful concept that shook the world of that time.
In a tremendous display of spontaneous life from Christ and reaching out to the spiritually starving, one of the great moments in Christian history began to unfold.
The powers that be couldn’t allow this to go unchallenged, so they eventually got hold of Silvanus and made him stand in front of some his fellow believers and they were ordered to stone him. They were offered pardon by the authorities if they would do it. Only one complied, and unfortunately this killed him.
Yet, as always, the testimony goes on. There were those who the Lord raised up afterward and continued on in the purpose of God.
Silvanus is one of the great men of Christian history. Far before most believers saw the need for change, God raised up a man who few have compared with since. His insights were so far ahead of his time that most even today have a hard time grasping and moving into this way of Christ.
We need and must take heed to what these godly pioneers of the faith partook in. We not only need to enter into all of these ways, but then we must go beyond further up into the ways of God that we may pass the testimony to those who will passionately follow.
What began his life’s work was a providential meeting that was set up by God. A man journeying on his way back home was entertained by Silvanus and taken in to his home. The traveler had with him the four gospels and the letters of Paul. They began reading and sharing them together. As a result when the guest left, he gave them to Silvanus.
The continuing seeking and entering into these scriptures brought around a dramatic transformation within him.
It was at this point that he changed his name and began to share with others the tremendous things that were happening to him. He and others began to reject the worship and superstitious adoration of icons and images. This brought about a strong response from the religious authorities.
The great contribution that Silvanus gave us was the passion to go back and see how the early church lived out their lives in Christ and then he would take those things and impart that to others.
Another terrific part of what Christ was doing in him was the desire to return to the simplicity that is in Christ. The religious behemoth had become so worldly that it was incapable of imparting any type of life to others in any way. The politics of religious power and devious stratagems permeated the institutional religious organization.
This simplicity in Christ and passion for doing things as Christ would have them started to spread everywhere.
One of the other great insights that Silvanus entered into in practice was the work of planting churches like the original apostles did. This was a tremendous, powerful concept that shook the world of that time.
In a tremendous display of spontaneous life from Christ and reaching out to the spiritually starving, one of the great moments in Christian history began to unfold.
The powers that be couldn’t allow this to go unchallenged, so they eventually got hold of Silvanus and made him stand in front of some his fellow believers and they were ordered to stone him. They were offered pardon by the authorities if they would do it. Only one complied, and unfortunately this killed him.
Yet, as always, the testimony goes on. There were those who the Lord raised up afterward and continued on in the purpose of God.
Silvanus is one of the great men of Christian history. Far before most believers saw the need for change, God raised up a man who few have compared with since. His insights were so far ahead of his time that most even today have a hard time grasping and moving into this way of Christ.
We need and must take heed to what these godly pioneers of the faith partook in. We not only need to enter into all of these ways, but then we must go beyond further up into the ways of God that we may pass the testimony to those who will passionately follow.
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